Sunday, December 29, 2013

You Get What You Pay For!

Hello Everyone!

I am here blogging as a special guest on Munkey Joe's blog.  This is my first time using blogger so please bear with me if it comes out looking all weird. =) For those who might not know me, my name is Lyn Stahl.  I am the owner of Metalhead Minis- Commission Painting, Consignment, and Sales.  Metalhead Minis was established in 2009, but I have been painting and collecting since 1997. Aside from Metalhead Minis, I also teach painting at multiple conventions such as GenCon and Genghis Con, I compete in painting competitions, and write articles for multiple hobby magazines around the world such as Figure Painter Magazine.

I wanted to take a moment to post some information regarding obtaining commission paint jobs from professional painters.  Often times, when professional painters hangout and "talk shop", one of the most common topics is the fact that a lot of people feel our rates are too high and such.  I have been thinking that there is a missing piece to this puzzle.  The piece that I think is missing is that perhaps if people were honestly educated about why the prices are what they are that it might help the client side understand much better. I am hoping that this can be quite helpful all around. 

Now just to be clear, there are many different professional painting businesses out there and they all have different rates for different reasons.  For example, some businesses have overhead costs to consider as they might pay rent for a separate space to paint outside of their home. Some businesses might also outsource some of their work to save time, or charge per hour instead of a flat rate.  Keep in mind that while it might make the prices a little higher, this might be a system that works specifically for the business and serves as a benefit to both the painter's work and their clients.  My objective in writing this blog post is not to speak for all the miniature painting services out there. The information in this blog I have made sure to keep pretty general using average numbers and such as a "starting point" (for lack of a better term).  This is just to help people in the community have an understanding.

We all know the saying "Time is money."
When it comes to commission painting, it is no different. When professional painters are working on a paint job, our time is worth money. Professional painters put a lot of money and time into their skill to get to that point.
  • Paint and Supplies- Professional painters have to obtain a lot of supplies in order to start painting for clients.  These items include (but are definitely not limited to) : Green stuff, Milliput, basing supplies, brushes, paints, airbrush, drills, pins, glues, and mixing mediums.  These supplies can range from costing hundreds to thousands of dollars depending on how much they have of these items. 
  • Education- While this type of job does not require a college degree or a certification, the amount of time that an actual professional painter puts into learning their craft and staying up to date can run into just as many study hours.  The education is obtained through classes at different conventions, books, website/video tutorials, instructional DVDs, and paint club meetings.  
With these points considered alone, it is easy to see why a professional painter would want to earn a return on the hard work they have put in.
Professional painters who also compete and have won prestigious awards and commendations (I.E.- Golden Demon, Crystal Brush) might charge a higher rate which is understandable.  Many sleepless nights were had in order to perfect their competition pieces and show their dedication to the craft. A lot of the awards out there are actually not that easy to obtain.
Depending on what quality paint job you as the client are looking for, it must be understood that you "get what you pay for".  This is another saying that I am sure we are all familiar with.  Once or twice I am sure that at least some of you have either made a purchase, had a car repair, or home repair done.  Thought you were being given a great deal, it was super cheap, and then in the end found out that it was crap, and had to go somewhere else and pay a little more to have the job done right. There are a lot of horror stories in relation to commission painting through someone that was not a professional.  The most common ones:
  • This person charged me $20 (or some other low price) to paint my figure/s. It has been a year and I have not received it back yet.
  • This person charged me (insert low, low price here) to paint my figure/s and when I got them back they were not they were not painted the way I asked.  Now I have to get them repainted.
There are other horror stories, but I am sure these two alone should suffice. I am sure you get the point.

Let's talk about average hours and prices.  Again, keep in mind that this is an average to give you an informational starting point, not actual. Professional painters paint at different speeds and all do things differently. These averages are based on a 28mm miniature.
  • The average rate for a table top quality (gaming quality) painted figure is $10-$30 as they take about 1-3 hours to complete.
  • The average hourly rate that a commission painting business charges is $10-$15 per hour. 
  • High table top quality (a nicer table top quality that has more layering of colors and blending) figures take an average of 3-8 hours to complete. 
  • Display quality (collector quality, these models are primarily used for display cases) painted models take an average minimum of 20+ hours to paint.
Double the times for larger figures (I.E.- 54mm)
Triple the times for dragons. 

Most miniature painting services also charge separately for assembly, drilling, gap filling, and pinning. This is because depending on the figure, assembling a figure can take hours alone.  This especially holds true for larger figures and dragons. 

I hope that this has been helpful. =)
Please feel free to get in touch with me if you have other questions.
Happy Painting to All!

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New UPDATES and Guests!!

Hello All!! Im posting a quick note to bid everyone a good end to 2013 and Welcome 2014 in!!  We have been busy this year despite Family issues and several setbacks. BUT here is whats up and what we are doing!!

#1 Help for Heroes Salamander Whirlwind
This was a charity project headed up by IDIC BEER and benefiting Help for Heroes in the UK. More info here.






#2 Toys for Tots Auction Dark Angels Angelus Redemptor Super-heavy Tank 40K
This was a combined effort of Blood And Skulls Industry and benefiting Toys for Tots. As of right now It has raised over $525 for them!!! Not much longer to go though but it will be a great thing for the Kiddies!!








And third I have Added Lyn Stahl from Metalhead Minis as a guest author for the blog. She is an Good friend of mine and part of My "Dallas Connection" collective of Painter Friends I know including Exiled Miniatures and Hamster Cage Studio.... Maybe  can get some of them to be Guest authors here as well... who knows!! Anyway I plan to have more content this year for you and some great eye candy!!

Upcoming projects:
I have some upcoming projects that are going to be fun!! Here are some of the plans:
Chaos Warhound Titan
Brass scorpion commission (from a defiler)
Finishing up the Marine Army
Painting IG catachans 
Painting IG cadians
Painting IG Armor
and some actual bust painting as well as my Painting comp Entries!!

Well thats what Is planned so Have a great new year and Serve the Emperor well!!



Saturday, May 18, 2013

MOAR VIDEOS!!!!

OK Guys Here are some more vids for you!!! First off the One part mold Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AesASRoRecY

and Reconditioning Super Sculpey clay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lKaEhzva1Q


Again I have NO IDEA WTF Blogger is not locating my videos so I had to post links again.

Sunday, May 12, 2013

Quick notes: Im not dead!!!

Just a quick post to say im not dead and I am on track.... Heres a video or two I made telling you all about whats going on and what is coming up!!


I dont know why Blogger is not locating my youtube uploads BUT Here we go anyway...

Catching up: what I have been doing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBCxOb885ts

Quick vid on Measuring Volumes for mold making:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlzrtN07vaM

And Tomm morn we should have our One part mold video complete!!

Anyway Thanks again for stopping in and Serve the Emperor well!!!
Munkey!!

Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Quick Video: Airbrush

Hey Guys, I made a quick Vid of my airbrushes and sort of intro for some of the future Airbrush Posts and videos. Heres the Link:


Saturday, February 16, 2013

Quick post.... YOUTUBE!!!

OK Fellow Wargamers!!! Munkey Joes YOUTUBE channel is up and running!! I am not going to stop posting here BUT I will also include some videos in my posts. Here is some quick Vids I made and look for a complete Casting series in Video format!!!

Quick TIP: Display plinth from found Objects

And My Unboxing Video of the new Minitaire Paints
Enjoy!!

Thursday, January 31, 2013

Missing post....

Well It appears that the post I made on the 15th was not posted. I hate that, as I am almost positive It was something on my end and Im quite sure it was my failure to hit post before closing out the window. SO I will repost it here to the best of my memory and then do the post I had planned for today in a couple of days.

OK here we go.... The post that was SUPPOSED to be Jan 15th.... Lucky me I made a outline on paper!!!

You Tube!! Munkey Joe Goes LIVE.... Sorta!!!

Munkey Joe Paints and Castings Now has a you tube Channel and I will be doing videos and tutorials On several different subjects such as painting, Casting, Terrain, army building, Various Money saving hints, and basicly many aspects of the Hobby. My Main effort is to have a channel that can entertain and educate you in the hobby even if your a seasoned Vet, or if you Just bought you FIRST box of minis. There will be something for everyone on my channel.

My main strong points are casting and casting tutorials, and tips and tricks. So the MAIN focus will be Hobby resin and casting. Im a decent enough painter and an OK model builder So I will toss some of that in there too no worries.

Im starting out small and am working now with a Buddy who is good with Photoshop and some video editing to help make my title screens and intro parts. As of right now Im recording with my cell phone and am looking for some sort of video editing software to make movies with (EDIT I found Voices of Mars VIDEO helpful with this, Im going to buy Vegas I think). Once I get set up things will be going better and I hope to have better quality stuff for you.

My itinerary for videos will be mostly my Casting class outline filmed as a seminar. I will cover basic casting and advanced casting and will mostly be dealing with Silicone and urethane resin. Here is the "plan" but notice that things happen and this is subject to a bit of change, as well as Video Length may modify some of the videos. I hate Long boring videos, so I wont make them if I dont have to.

Series one: Basic casting
-Overview and materials
---Familiarizing with terms and tech
---Material Suppliers
---Identifying needs to determine your plan
-Simple Molds
---Push molds
---Poured silicone one part molds
---Poured silicone Simple two part molds
-Getting started
---Identify your plan
---Gathering materials
---making a moldbox
---prepping for pour
-Pouring molds
---Using silicone= HOW TO mixing and pouring
---Prepping your part
---First pour
---demolding your part.
-Pouring resin
---Using Resin= HOW TO mixing and pouring
---Prepping your molds
---First pour
--- Demolding your cast

Series Two: Advanced Casting
-Intro 
-Advanced two part molds
-One part block molds and split molds
-Casting with pressure
-casting with vacuum and pressure


And for those who are wanting to find us on YouTube: Munkey Joe YouTube Channel

Tuesday, January 1, 2013

2013: a new year of projects!!

SO 2013 is upon us. FINALLY!! I have been busy with holidays as most have and am happy for Family time but am also happy its over. SO I have little to update as I have been getting the house ready for family, working overtime (holidays are the busy part of my year as far as work) and celebrating the holidays with my Wife's Family. SO I will quickly plan out my 2013 here for posterity and Yet again Probably fail to reach my goals... ;)



Dark Hunter Marines
I have made a bit of progress here BUT I am going to have these ready in the first quarter of the year. This is going to be my "army" to learn 6th ED with and want to get them knocked out. I have a lot of stuff to do yet but I'll get them knocked out and get to playing. With this new understanding I can get my IG changed up and get them on the table too. 

Commission Painting
I have currently have 5 minis to paint up from O1I and a handful of terrain projects for the club. Im using one of the "True Scale Termies" from Three Stage Studios I have as the basis of a Typhus and another one as a Iron Warrior for some friends. Im doing this as the casts are not too great. This about does it for Commisions as I am not really wanting to get into that whole scene again.....

Steampunk chest
I got a bunch of new gears and such for Christmas so this project is headed forward. Its at a slow pace but I hope to have it done by summertime.


Terrain.
As Mentioned earlier I have some Club projects and such in store and I have some planned for this new year. I have several projects planned but nothing real concrete but stuff to spruce up the club a bit.

Comp Painting
Oh the COMP PAINTING.... OK this is where I plan to spend a LOT of time this year. I plan on several painting comps both online and in person. I am entering some things in Gencon, and at a close FLGS called Dropzone Games. I will put some display pieces at my Local game clubs hangout Hobbytown Frederick. THIS is where 50% of my hobby is going to go this year.

Casting
This is another large part of my Hobby time this year. I have a lot of projects and plans for this year. nothing Im gonna slip out just yet BUT with the warmer weather I plan to cast up a lot of things.

Work and real life
This always takes a ton of my time. Work Work Work. I may be looking for a new job sometime this year and I also want to get hot on my RN degree again. Im starting to miss medicine (I was a Army Medic for 11 years and just Dropped it) and my Doctor actually gave me a scolding and it opened my eyes a bit, soooooo Yea Im needing to do something with my Life. 

So those are the plans for 2013 For Munkey Joe Paints and Castings. If you have any comments or such Feel free to add or Email me at Munkeyjoe75 AT Gmail DOT com.